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, the first lady of the united states reminds us she can duggy better than laura bush ever did. that clip, later in the show. live at 5:30 a.m., you are at 30 rock. violent protest against the united states. at the u.s. kons late in benghazi, at least one american staff member was killed after they stormed the compound and burned it down. looking at the scene, you can hear gunshots going off. the attackers were armed with automatic rifles and grenades. libyan forces stationed there were said to have done little to stop the violence. in egypt, protesters scaled walls destroying the american flag, ripping it to shreds and replacing it with a black, islamic banner. the diplomatic staff had been evacua evacuated. both incidents in reaction to a little known akture movie produced in the u.s. po ridicule the profit mo hammed. the same guy that triggered deadly riots in afghanistan by threatening to burn the koran. the american embassy prepared a statement reading the united states embassy condemns the efforts of misguided individuals to hurt the feelings of muslims. respect for religious belief
included reports of a bin laden terror cell present in the united states at that point. he claims white house officials were dismissive of the information. he writes some of the administration considered the warning to be bluster. an intelligence official told me in interviews the neoconservative leaders were warning the white house that the cia had been fooled. according to this theory, bin laden was planning an attack to distract them from saddam hussein who they saw as a greater threat. intelligence officials protested the idea of bin laden conspireing with mr. hussein saying it was ridiculous. the neoconservative suspicions were carrying the day. the cia prepared an analysis to accept the danger from bin laden was real. that exert in the new york times. he'll join us on "morning joe" to talk about this piece and his book, "500 days." we'll ask how he came across this and how it stacked up against other terror warnings that came across the president's desk at that time. >>> we were reminded on the eveover 9/11 that terrorist continues. al qaeda's number two leader in yemen was killed
are reaction to a little-known amateur movie produced in the united states which ridiculed the prophet mohammed. it gained attention because an obscure florida pastor began promoting it, the same man who triggered deadly riots in afghanistan when he threatened to burn the koran. we want to go straight to cairo where we find nbc chief foreign correspondent, richard engel. richard, fill us in a little more this morning. >> reporter: good morning. a libyan source has told nbc news that the u.s. ambassador who was visiting the consulate was killed along with three others. not sure of the nationality of those three others. the u.s. state department has not confirmed this, but this has been told to us by a senior security source in libya. we've been also told that the libyan prime minister and the libyan president will both be speaking today about this subject, offering their condolences to the united states and to the family of the fallen ambassador. and this is according to the report. we were told that when gunmen and a mob stormed the consulate building, they first attacked it with rpgs, then the
internet movie they find offensive that was produced in the united states. the government repeated they have no affiliation with the movie. president obama had a blunt late night phone call with egypt's new president, morsi. president obama warning it could be jeopardizes if they don't take a stand against american attacks. too little too late. morsi asked for $5 billion in loans from the inf telling egyptians it is their duty to protect our guests. in yemens a mob scene. they evacuated to a safe location and no embassy staff was injured. there was still plenty of damage as you can see in the pictures. hundreds of protesters tore through the security wall and smashed bullet-proof windows and torching cars. yemen's president immediately apologized to president obama for the attacks. >>> new developments on the attack in benghazi. we'll get the latest on that. first, we go to cairo. jim is standing by. what is the latest there? >> reporter: hi, willie. it's getting quite noisy here now. several hundred protesters who were setting up camp overnight on tahrir square tried to make anoth
of violence will shake the resolve of the united states of america. >> good morning. it is thursday, september 13th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, national affairs editor for "new york" magazine, john heilman, richard haass. and in washington, nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports," andrea mitchell. >> we have so much to talk about this morning. of course breaking news overnight. >> yeah. >> we, of course, have been focused on libya. yesterday we were focused on the political scrap that was taking place while we had chaotic situations across the globe. >> i'd say it was more than a scrap. >> i think it was a terrible moment, maybe a defining moment in the campaign, of course what's going on in egypt right now. is equally troubling. and i suspect that when the streets clear, perhaps the most troubling aftereffect of this will be what has not been said by the muslim brotherhood or the leaders of egypt. this morning we'll have to get to that later because this morning more breaking news. now out of yemen. >> yep. witnesses say hundreds of demonst
has the judgment and character to be the president of the united states. this morning all of us were shocked to learn that chris stevens, our ambassador to libya, had been killed in an attack there, along with three other american diplomats, all murdered in what u.s. officials are now investigating as a possible terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11. while americans mourned, mr. romney saw a political opportunity. >> the administration was wrong to stand by a statement sympathizing with those who had breached our embassy in egypt instead of condemning their actions. in my view, a disgraceful statement on the part of our administration to apologize for american values. >> sympathizing with them all, apologizing for our values? this is rough talk and ugly stuff and president obama responded. >> there's a broader lesson to be learned here. governor romney has a tendency to shoot first and aim later and as president, one of the things i've learned is that you can't do that, that it's important for you to make sure that the statements that you make are backed up by the facts and tha
is a big thing that iran knows and israel knows and the rest of the world knows that the united states is not going to let iran get a weapon or capability of getting a weapon. >> first of all, i think there's a balance. you need to strike a balance. what many including governor romney and congressman ryan and others around the world have said you have to be specific about this capability point. that you have to be able to signal to the iranians and the world that just building the weapon or getting close to building the weapon, is not the red line. having the tools at their disposal, that they would be easily assembled is a big problem and must be stopped because if they have the tools to assemble a weapon, easily assemble a weapon, it will have the impact that the iranian leadership wants. it will enable them to establish some set of region in the back their terror proxy operations through hezbollah and hamasimpum to just put pressure on friends and adversaries of ours and that's unacceptable and drawing that line does not mean you have to say at this specific moment at this specific
is occupied by the president of the united states? a iowa couple shows up and the leader of the free world is hogging the place. an explanation, later. let's get to the news live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock here in the city. >>> this morning, we have new numbers in ohio and virginia. a new fox news poll shows among likely voters president obama opening up leads, seven points in both of those states, ohio and virginia. meanwhile, in florida, the president has a five-point lead according to fox news. it's impossible for romney to win the votes he needs without florida, which carries 29 of the votes. a cnn poll shows the president leading romney by eight points in the state of michigan. romney will be campaigning in sarasota. last night in miami, the republican candidate held his first public rally in five days and the first since the hidden camera remarks about the 47%. that took him off his campaign message. a gallup poll says more than half of independent voters, the comments did not make a difference. 29% say they are less likely to vote for romney. 15% of americans say they are more likely t
of the united states. >> reporter: julian moore earned best actress in a miniseries or movie for "game change." >> i feel so validated because sarah palin gave me a big thumbs down. >> reporter: "hatfields & mccoys"' kevin costner won best actor. make it ten years in a row for jon stewart and company. even if jimmy fallon did all he could to keep him from accepting. mark barger, nbc news. >>> nbc's education nation is in full swing. they're participating in the three-day summit aimed at improving education in the united states. nbc's danielle leigh reports. >> cody, you can do it. come on. >> i don't get it, mom. >> reporter: many of the nations' parents say they feel like the parents in this movie, "won't back down". >> we are taking back our schools. >> reporter: it features parents fighting for their children's future in a school system that is failing. >> we are falling further and further behind. as a parent i want the best for my child. >> reporter: this texas mom came to new york looking for better solutions. they're out there. >> i know a lot more stuff than i did last year. >> report
governor romney for the first time gets on the same stage as the president of the united states, people can make a direct comparison about them and their visions for the future and wednesday night is the restart of the campaign and i think you'll start to see the numbers move back in the other direction. >> how do you restart the campaign, governor, at the last moment where you can reach tens of millions of people. why isn't it too late to believe that the presidential debates, after you announce your running mate, after you have a convention, that you can restart with the presidential debates? >> absolutely. you're going to have tens of millions of people for the very first time, david, really tuning in and paying attention to this race. and also, for the first time you're going to have them be able to make a direct side-by-side comparison. remember, the end of the day, campaigns are about the candidates. they're going to be able to see these two candidates next to each other, debating each other and governor romney, i know is going to do a great job wednesday night of laying out his visio
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the bus. now we've seen a very different timeline from israel and the united states from netanyahu. netanyahu says within months iran will have gone beyond the point of no return. american intelligence believes there's more time. where do we stand now with israel and is mitt romney -- >> we stand -- >> that the president has thrown israel under the bus? >> well, first of all, the term throwing israel under the bus is really a remarkable -- you know, it's an unbelievably cynical explosivetive term that is also a lie. it is a fundamental lie. and mitt romney ought to be ashamed of himself for continuing to say it when he knows that prime minister netanyahu and defense minister ehud barak have both said this administration has the strongest security and military cooperation with israel it has ever had. ever. and the president has taken steps to put america in a position to deal with iran with whatever eventuality may be necessary, and i mean whatever eventuality may be necessary. the president made that crystal clear in his speech at the united nations. and, yesterday, prime minister
diplomatic security. remember, we reported yesterday president morsi had tough words about the united states. secretary clinton met with the presidents of libya, pakistan and to hold talks with benjamin netanyahu. yesterday in new york iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad looked to stoke an already tense situation in the middle east during his remarks at the general assembly. he declared that israel is bullying the united states over iran's alleged threat of a nuclear weapon. ahmadinejad said he's not worried about the threat of an attack on his country, the impact of international countries against his country are "not that bad." says we're doing fine. >>> mitt romney schorpening his attacks when it comes to the president's handling of foreign policy. in pueblo, the republican candidate keyed in on this phrase he used during his "60 minutes" interview, anti-unrest around the world. >> align ourselves with democracy, universal right, a notion that people have to be able to participate in their own governance, but i was pretty certain and continue to be pretty certain that there are going to
clinton says the united states government has now opened a new inquiry into the attack, an attack libya insists was preplanned. president obama says it's still unclear whether al qaeda was involved. meanwhile, in benghazi, the late ambassador chris stevens and the three other americans killed were remembered at a memorial servi service. >>> well, it's the moment so many consumers have been waiting for, the iphone 5 finally debuts today. people have been lining up for days all over the world for the latest smartphone from apple. the very first of the new handsets was sold in australia to cheers. iphone 5 presales alone topped 2 million according to the company. let's take an early look at the markets as we get all up in your business this morning. cnbc's karen in new york. >> it's going to be getting to the front of the queue because the queues are long. as you mentioned australia, asia and europe is going to be selling the device in the united states later on today. but many people, in fact, won't get to see the device probably till october as the company plays catch-up with the amount
around. we have a campaign which is tied with an incumbent president of the united states. i've got a very effective campaign that's doing a very good job but not everything i say is elegant. i want to make it very clear, i want to help 100% of the american people. >> republican governor scott walker meanwhile of wisconsin, said he'd like romney's campaign to recapture the same energy it had after paul ryan was first announced as the running mate. >> i want to see more passion. certainly in part it is a referendum on this president there is no doubt. but i think in most americans there's a lot of independent swing voters they want to know what's wrong with this president, but they want to know what's right and what's going to move them forward. i want to see fire in the belly. >> governor scott walker. while they're crisscrossing through ohio voters in the buckeye state will see a ad from president obama. it references the personal taurns romney released on friday showed he paid a 14% tax rate in 2011 although he gave a ton of money to charity, the tax rate is
romney he give a foreign policy speech which talks about the united states' role not only in the middle east but in the world. >> in california, federal authorities are investigating the man who posted the anti-muslim video that sparked the outrage. >>> and ambassador chris stevens' sister remembers her big brother. >> he was so focused on, you know, the joyous times on his diplomatic mission, that he didn't even go into really talking too much about how afraid he was, you know, for his life. >> on the campaign trail, 53 days, polls today show president obama pulling ahead in critical battleground states. and move over, david gregory's got his own gangnan style. >> side to side right after this. ♪ >>> good day. i'm andrea mitchell, live in washington. joining us, chris elissa managing editor of post politics.com and chuck todd, chief white house correspondent, political director and host of "the daily run down" here on msnbc. chuck, to you and you chris, the foreign policy debate this week that we've seen mitt romney coming out while the state department is still trying to identify bo
. the obama campaign has also responded. it's shocking that a candidate for president of the united states would go behind closed doors and declare to a group of wealthy donors that half the american people view themselves as victims sbientitled to hando and are unwilling to take personal responsibility for their own lives. it's hard to serve as president for all americans when i have disdainfully written off half of the nation. that's exactly what mitt romney has done here with this statement behind closed doors. for months on this program, i have asked, will the real mitt romney stand up? we saw the real mitt romney. he did behind closed doors. he doesn't give a damn about those who needs assistance in this country and that we are a society, we are a country of compassion. we want to help people who are downtrodden. we want to help those who were dealt a tough deck of cards, whether it be in the economy, or whether it be health care, as of no fault of their own, or circumstances put on families that are totally out of their control. mitt romney wants to do away with those. he views those
you think about what jay carney said in regards to the notion na the government of the united states can tell speakers, here or abroad, they don't like what they're saying they respect their right under the u.s. constitution to speak, but rather some of the people stop speaking in a way deemed offensive to muhammad and adherence of islam. >> i agree, we need to be responsible, some people need to connect their tongue to their brain. they play the game of extremists on the other side. instigators, maybe they don't do it thinking that it will instigate something or violence will erupt. but what they're doing is something simple, they put something so offensive to certain people they cannot handle it. they start grasping democracy. after the arab revolution we had people raised, born under dictatorship. free election, free society it will take time. when you have terry johns and people saying freedom of expression and then you offend millions of people in their belief, and from the other side, it's used, it's used and manipulated by extremists to have political leverage. it's a disaster
jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in the united states of america. i'm not fighting on behalf of rich values or poor values or 53% value. i'm fighting for american values. he's fighting for american values. but the other candidate, the man behind the mask, he's offering us a budget that takes care of the rich but leaves everyone else in the dust. >> show me your budget. i'll tell you what you've got. let's take a look at their budget. why are they doing it? well, they are doing it because they have to. and here's the reason they have to. they cannot possibly, possibly continue to add to the tax cuts of the super wealthy. >> that's what is behind the romney mask. that's what the next 39 days to the election are all about. and a special thank you to our fake president and mitt romney for helping us to predict this election. joining me now unmasked is krystal ball, co-host of "the nik kell" on msnbc and dana milbank. thank you both for being here this evening. >> thank, reverend. >> krystal, let me start with you. romney is falling behind not because he's
on the united states embassy. >> i know there are some who ask why don't we just ban such a video. and the answer is enshrined in our laws. our constitution protects the right to practice free speech. i accept that people are going to call me awful things every day. and i will always defend their right to do so. and we must agree, there is no speech that justifies mindless violence. >> in the last couple of weeks, he pointed out those are probably not the result of a video and were coordinated. he also delivered in his remarks a stern warning to iran over its nuclear ambition. >> let me be clear. america wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy and we believe there is still time and space to do so. but that time is not unlimited. we respect the right of nations to access peaceful nuclear power. but one of the purposes of the united nations is to see that we harness that power for peace. make no mistake, a nuclear-armed iran is not a challenge that can be contained. it would threaten elimination of israel, the security of gulf nations, and the stability of the global economy.
. >> and when i become president of the united states. >> i'm going to win pennsylvania and i'm going to become the next president of the united states. >> we'll be talking with our political journalists about all that in just a moment. today there's reaction and a rare reversal from u.s. intelligence official on what happened in libya. officials now admit they got it wrong. the director of national intelligence office says "we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information." and the intelligence community now believes it was a "deliberate and organized attack" which left the u.s. ambassador and three others dead. now members of congress from both parties are demanding answers. on the ground in benghazi, investigators can't even get to the scene. nbc's mike viqueira is joining us from the white house with more on this. mike, how big a deal is this reversal? >> reporter: well, it's very controversial and potentially a big deal. the question all along is ever since those september 11th attacks what caused them, what was the motivation for the people who killed four americans including
the president of the united states who signed his initials saying, nfl fans on both sides of the aisle, hope the refs lockout is settled soon. the settlement became a bipartisan issue and it brought out none other than packers' fan and union busting wisconsin governor, scott walker, who two weeks ago had nearly all of his infamous anti-collective bargaining law struck down by a wisconsin judge. he chimed in on twitter writing after catching a few hours of sleep, the packers game is still painful, #returntherealrefs. mitt romney chimed in saying, i'd sure like to see some experienced referees. with nfl experience come back out to the nfl playing fields. that was after his running mate, paul ryan, also of wisconsin, used the monday night football debacle as a convenient political metaphor. >> did you watch that packer game last night? i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs. you know what? it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it is time to get out. >>> all of the pressure and not necessarily from politicians helped bring about a deal bet
for president of the united states, for god's sake. what are you going to do? >> david gregory, they just went round and round and round. and it was like jell-o. he could not get mitt romney to stand still on anything except to promise tax cuts without in any way specifying how they were going to get paid for it. >> yeah. exactly. i'm not going to raise taxes on the american people. >> are we being too tough on these two guys, or were they really, really general in your eyes, too? >> they continue to amaze me, both the principles romney and ryan and their staff, they come to these shows with no news to me. and so the news they're going to make is news that's negative from their point of view. i thought, you know, they know what questions they're going to get. one thing we haven't discussed yet about romney is his answer about why he didn't mention the troops in his speech at the convention. he got asked about it and gave a very weak answer. >> he was also asked -- >> he was asked again and gave an even weaker answer. >> somebody who is really facing this unemployment crisis head on. and again,
slack. >> at least for 24 to 48 hours until you have a dead united states ambassador come back home. i think that was the unbecoming thing. >> but the egypt mistake is an interesting mistake and i think deserves some scrutiny. >> it was an interesting mistake. i think we can get past it. i think it is very good news that the president spoke with president morsi and let him know, this is not acceptable. this is not how you guys behave. and john, from all the report s i've read, the egyptians said message received. the muslim brotherhood, even, said message received. we're going to pull back. why is this important? this is so important for so many reasons in the middle east. the least of which not being israel and trying to keep -- trying to keep israel safe. >> well, you think about it, you know, the historic u.s. allies in that region, all of those relationships are somewhat more tenuous and trfragile than just few years ago, whether it saudi arabia. you want to have that relationship be strong. i think the president was speaking the truth which is that it's a government in transition.
of the united states of america, and to the republic, for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [ applause ] >> boy, she just looked great, didn't she? >> she did. you can imagine, the amount of therapy and hard work. >> oh. >> that she's had to endure to climb back from being -- she was literally shot in the head. >> in the head at close range. >> close blank range. that was a pretty pivotal time in the nation's conversation about where we stand and the tone of things. >> it was. >> what a symbol of hope she is. that was incredible. >> it was a very moving moment. >>> all right. coming up he nominated his dad, last night for another term as vice president, bo biden, the attorney general of delaware, joins us ahead here on "morning joe." former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, nbc news political director chuck todd and later maryland governor martin o'malley. up next mike allen is here with the politico playbook. but first, bill karins with a check on the weekend forecast. >> good morning to you, mika. let me help get everyone out the door thi
was subsequently arrested his case known as plessy versus ferguson went to the united states supreme court. the court ruled in 1896 set forth a precedent that would take decades to overturn. it wasn't until 1954 brown versus board of education that we saw it overturned. you may have heard of the plessy v ferguson case, separate but equal. the majority for the court found that a statute which implies a distinction between the white and colored races has no tendency to destroy the legal quality of the two races. let's make this clearer. not only did the ruling separate people by race. it also narrowly defined them based on society's construct of what race is. you see, plessy himself, was the sort of man that you might look at and assume that he was white. so when the court was not only saying in this case that black and white are separate, they were also saying that the one drop rule is the definition of american blackness. but that was then, right? because we've moved beyond the definition and separation of race being inscribed into law. right. and race is no longer a construct placed on ot
for president of the united states would go behind closed doors and declare to a group of wealthy donors that half of the american people view themselves as victims entitled to handouts and are unwilling to take personal responsibility for their lives. it's hard to serve as president for all americans when you've disdainfully written off half the nation." in a late-night news conference, romney responded. >> well, you know, it's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. i'm speaking off the cuff in response to a question, and i'm sure i could state it more clearly and in a more effective way, but it's a message which i'm going to carry and continue to carry, which is, look, the president's approach is attractive to people who are not paying taxes because, frankly, my discussion about lowering taxes isn't as attractive to them. and therefore, i'm not likely to draw them into my campaign as effectively as those who are in the middle. >> let me britain in anne kornblut for "the washington post" and a politics reporter for roll call. good to see both of you. let me play reaction across t
just how tense it is on the inside, but you're running to be president of the united states. that's how it goes. and a lot of what you're seeing with the romney campaign right now is when you have sort of cascading failure. you're getting people, you know, tommy thompson said yesterday, why am i going down in polls? what do you think? i'm running with mitt romney. that doesn't help. you start having morale problems, and, you know it can all go pretty bad. the point, tim was making about, about romney's strategy, coming in late. that's a pretty perilous strategy. what obama has done is similar to what the clinton campaign did in '96. they spent tons of money early to define bob dole. by the time bob dole got around and campaigned, everybody kind of had a sense he was, you know, newt gingrich's mini me, basically and it was over for him. >> and then to the question of money, tim, you know, if you look like you're in a really tough spot and things could change with the first debate, a lot of people think that could be sort of a turning point in this race, but do your supporters run to you
of the united states. i've got a very effective campaign. it's doing a very good job. but not everything i say is elegant, and i want to make it very clear, i want to help 100% of the american people. >> in back-to-back interviews on "60 minutes," both candidates laid out their vision and admitted mistakes. romney said he spoke inelegantly. the president admitting he hadn't changed the culture in washington. >> i'm the first one to confess that the spirit that i brought to washington, that i wanted to see instituted where we weren't constantly in a political slugfest but were focused more on problem solving, you know, i haven't fully accomplished that. >> here's the brand-new politico/george washington university battleground poll. the president has a slight lead over romney, and barring a major event, the window may be closing for romney to make inroads in those key battleground states. let me bring in real politics reporter erin pike and politico's alexander burns. good morning to both of you. erin, not only did mitt romney say his campaign doesn't need a turnaround, yet he said i want to be
the next president of the united states will appoint several justices to the supreme court. that often is the most lasting legacy of an entire presidency. i find it strange, given the amount of coverage that citizens united has got, i found if i'm traveling or speaking to groups reporting, among progressive folks, everyone knows citizens unite and hates them. everyone knows the court gave us citizens united, the court upheld the piece of legislation not just for this president but probably democrats of the last 30 or 40 years. yet, the court is nowhere in the election so far. jeff, you wrote about this yesterday. what is your take on why we are not hearing about the court on the campaign trail. >> because, i have asked political professionals this question repeatedly. democrats and republicans say the same thing. they say the people who really care about the supreme court are committed to their party anyway. the people who want roe preserved are going to vote for the democrats those who want it reverses are going to vote republican. the swing voters don't care even if they are pro-choi
showing the iphone could impact the entire united states domestic product. >> reporter: that's right. analyst jp morgan says it could boost the gdp by a half percentage point. answers should be later this morning when we find out what is at the center of this apple core. jay grarks nbc news, san francisco. >>> here is your "first look" at headlines around america. in florida, a dramatic end to a high speed chase after a car smashed into the back of another car before coming to a rest along i-95. two men and a teenager took off running. the trio may be linked to a series of burglaries. >>> in utah, a breach of earth -- strong thunderstorms were too much for the dike. the flooding forced evacuations. >>> in pennsylvania, heartless act of vandalism. the target, animals. a goat and horse were separate painted over the weekend. they are sitting on the farm. the owners think they tagged mailboxes. finally, could this be the future of our military? the pentagon backed darpa program has robot dogs. it could lighten the load for our troops. gps keeps them moving in the right direction. now, f
judicious in what you say. anytime you run for the president of the united states, you are on. >>> jesse ventura is floating the idea he may run for president. he mentioned radio host howard stern as a possible running mate for an independent ticket. >>> orrin hatch of utah is being called an old guy by his opponent. the 80-year-old hatch might retire or die before his term is through. the hatch campaign called the comments outrageous and offensive. >>> blt steak is running a presidential poll based on burger orders to be decided in two weeks. the mitt romney burger features a utah style and the other has kobe beef hawaiian style. >>> mr. obama talked about the florida pizza ria owner who lifted him off the ground in a bear hug last week. remember that? the president said quote, i think he fixed something in my back. that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. >>> here is your "first look" at how wall street is going to kick off. the dow closed at 13,564 after adding 11 points yesterday. the s&p lost one. nasdaq was down a fraction. in tokyo, the nikkei jumped over 108 points. it was
by how scared the president of the united states looked, how disoriented he looked, how it seemed like they did not know where they were going. and i just want to do a hat tip right here, which, again, in this environment you probably aren't supposed to do. you know what? while george bush looked scared and disoriented that day, that day only, rudy giuliani stepped up. and he became america's mayor on that day. and he kept people advised of what was going on and was a great leader for that time. >> it was one of the great acts of spiritual and popular leadership that we'll ever see. and, you know, mayor giuliani is a big churchillian. but he was reading and looking at in those days and weeks a book by john lucash called "five days of may" in may of 1940 between churchill and chamberlain and halifax. and it was a marvelous case of leadership of being there. >> well, and like churchill and we're not comparing him to churchill, but for that time, though, like churchill, part of it was leadership, part of it was a great act. telling people, and by the way, that's what kept the british peop
's the governor who presided over the farrest reaching health care plan in the united states today. i don't know what to say. i'm speechless. >> he clearly did know what he was talking about on morning joe there and he worked enough on the issue in massachusetts to know what he was talking about. and that appearance on "morning joe" was at the beginning of this presidential campaign. he knows then that he's going to be running for president. so he's giving a campaign answer then which he can no longer give, apparently. but as the governor just mentioned, one of the things that you can get at the emer emergency room is a very, very big bill that can put you into bankruptcy, isn't it? >> the emergency room is a great place to get patched up, if you have a true emergency, a heart attack, but it takes only a few hours in the emergency room to run up a bill not just in the thousands of dollars. there are very few people who can pay that. the bills get very expensive, people can't pay it and the cost gets passed on to the rest of us in the form of higher taxes or insurance premiums. nobody knows that
committee in the senate. >> they balanced their family budgets only to find out that the united states senate on the democratic control will not even bring a budget plan to the senate floor. people should know that the republican-led house, on the other hand, met its obligations. most significantly it passed a budget to rescue america from a debt crisis. >> this is an election year. you hear a lot of hyperbole. you can't find one sane economist that doesn't say if they don't do something about that fiscal cliff, the raising of the tax rates, cutting of government spending it will not lead to something close to an economic catastrophe not only here in washington and in the united states but worldwide. here's another bit of good news. they're going to come back after the elections, after november 6 in a lame duck session and try to do something about that. thomas? >> michael, we talk about this continuing resolution so it gets us into march of 2013. there's a potential it could go six months beyond that, correct? >> well, sure. i mean, they always like to give a new congress a couple of
of the united states is an awesome figure merely to share the platform with him on equal terms is the gain in stature, good performance will be gauged even better. why would any president agree to participate in an event that ultimately -- the -- because it's become now a demand, president obama suddenly bailed on debates. then, you know, he would be seeming like a poor sport. and also these debates are agreed upon long before the fall season, they're everything from the podium to the lighting, everything is worked out between the parties. >> do you think the presidential debate has ever changed the course of an election? >> i definitely do, i think we just talked about 1960, i think it changed it. i think in 1976, in 1980, i think also one could argue in 2000, it would al gore's kind of a robotic performance against george w. bush that cost him a lot. - >> rolling his eyes and -- >> the lock box that nobody understood what he was talking about. and the way -- even the way his makeup looked. one of the problems of these debates anymore, it's not just substance, people are looking at eye ro
you. god bless the united states of america. >> here's allen west's interpretation of that ad for his audience at the republican jewish coalition in bow contaca florida last night. >> they want to bring out an old soviet marxist theme called forward. >> yeah. yeah. you heard them. allen west had the full approval of his audience with that. including the members of the audience who are currently being kept alive by a socialist program called medicare. but allen west wasn't there just to tear down the president and decode his soviet marxist soviet socialist messaging. he was there to give republicans their marching orders. >> we are going to go forward. >> what? allen west just finished explaining that the word forward is a soviet markist soviet socialist something or other and then he used that very same word in telling his audience what to do? of course, his audience immediately jumped out of their seats are you crazy how do you expect us to listen to you. and of course the republican jewish coalition bouncers must have thrown him out of the room and told him to never insult their int
for the president of the united states and commander in chief, as mr. romney is? >> it's inconceivable to me, al, that the american people would take romney seriously after what he did at the convention. because the american people, the first job of the president, is to make the american people safe, to defend the country, to protect the country. and for him to come up there and not even talk about what's going on in a whole bunch of places, whether you want to talk about syria or libya or all the places that the president has had to stand up, make decisions and stand behind those decisions and come out beautifully on most of them, i -- i think that romney is afraid that he can't do it. that's why he doesn't say anything about it. there's no other explanation except that he's afraid. he knows he ought to be talking about it. >> now, richard, romney's team, 17 of his 24 advisers served under the bush administration. and the reason that becomes relevant today is kurt eichenwald in the new york times came out with intelligence briefings in 2001. may 1st president bush was informed. june 22nd, attac
? >> well, that helps mitt romney to be on the same stage with the president of the united states. there's no doubt. it always helps the challenger with the incumbent. the problem, though, is i think what susan pointed out and dana pointed out is that we really don't know who mitt romney is. so the question is which mitt romney will appear on the debate stage? and that will determine whether people will believe whatever candidate shows up at that time. >> all right. dana, real fast, though, president obama has a lot on his agenda. starting tomorrow, he's going to be here in new york city. and what's on the schedule is this high-stakes speech before the u.n. nbc's first read is calling it the president's do-no-harm week. and the reason they're saying that is because he doesn't really have on one-on-ones with any other world leaders. he's got to sit down with the ladies of "the view." sure, i mean, and they're going to hit him with some hard questions. but, you know, it's not going to be the same thing as meeting with world leaders. the romney campaign is going after the president on this
and affects the relations with the united states and the iran situation because you have netanyahu clearly hasn't said this but clearly we can all say he prefers mitt romney to be president and actions and words probably designed to help romney. on the other hand, you have barack the defense minister trying to help obama with the public words and statements. >> i think brack -- >> how will that dynamic be affected by the november election result here? >> i don't think it will be very -- i mean, it might affect the jewish population vote more or less but i don't think ehud barack, the defense minister endorsed -- >> when you have netanyahu going out of the way to talk about -- present the image of strained relations and then choosing to go public and say israel's never had a better friend in the white house than barack obama. that seems -- >> when you are prime minister, you have the upper hand. you're the voice of the country. you are the most important man. you know, when jimmy carter used to say, israel has no morn policy and only domestic policy. this time in history we see somebody int
pennsylvania and i'm going to become the next president of the united states. >> okay. just to clarify, the romney campaign is running no ads whatsoever in pennsylvania. mr. romney is down 12 points in "the new york times" poll this week. pennsylvania is not in play. i guess that's why tonight he'll head up to battleground massachusetts. yes, another fund-raiser. this time with the president of the new england patriots, son of the patriots owner. good thing that strike is over. could be a bit awkward collecting 75 grand a plate. if you're wondering why mitt romney isn't complaining in, say, florida, it may be that mitt romney never, ever wants to cibo se see boca raton again. case in point, vice president joe biden in boca raton this afternoon who had a quite different view of the 47%. >> these people are fighting back with every single thing they have. i don't sense any sense of dependency. they're just looking for a little opportunity, a level playing field, a fair shot. my dad used to say, joey, i don't expect the government to solve my problems but i do expect them to understand my
? that makes sense. one of the least controversial things you could possibly imagine the united states government agreeing to. well, a bill to adjust that payment for the cost of living was brought to the senate floor last thursday. it was expected to go ahead, no muss, no fuss. who is going to argue with that? but it was blocked by someone in governor romney's party. an unnamed republican senator has put a hold on the cost of living adjustment to the surviving spouse's and children's payment for soldiers killed in the war. the same hold is also affecting the disability payments to soldiers who are wounded in the war. some republican senator is blocking this. we don't know who. governor romney, here's a place to start. you are now the leader of the republican party. i realize you're having a hard time getting the training wheels off when it comes to nation 58 security. but here's an easy one, should that senator from your own party lift that hold on the cost of living adjustment to the payments to those people who we sort of owe it to? should a republican senator who is holding this up
properly appreciated the gravity of the house crisis in the united states, and putting -- fixing that in a way that people could either try to save their homes, refinance, even if their home value is underwater, but they had equity in it. so i'd say this more as preemptive, and since congress is so unpopular, doesn't hurt to blame them. >> and here's the thing with housing, lynn, not to get off on a tangent, but one of the things that's rarely addressed is a lot of the folks who desperately need to refinance their homes, their credit has taken such -- it's been battered so badly during the crisis, they don't qualify for the refi. >> well, and i'll do this quickly. that's my point. if you talk about why people might hone in on this issue and why obama's focusing on this, before the debate, where it is likely a reasonable thing to guess that it might come up, is that he realizes that this is a vulnerable area, achilles heel, and now trying to shift the blame ahead of time to congress. i say this is a little bit of setting the stage for obama vulnerability that people can relate to.
of the united states. the polls he showed president obama up eight points in that state. now suffolk university poll shows the president at 46%. the president reminded what was said. >> i have always said that change takes more than one term or more than one president. it takes more than one party. i can't happen if you write out half the nation before you take office. >> i don't know how many of you out there will be voting for me. but, i'll be fighting for you no matter what. i'm not fighting to create democratic jobs or republican jobs, i'm fighting to create american jobs. >> today the obama re-election campaign released it's third add hitting mitt romney for insulting and lying about 47% of americans. >> 47% of people will vote for the president who are -- believe that they are victims believe the president who are -- believe that they are victims believe that government has the responsibility to care for them and believe that they are entitled to health care and housing and you name it. my job is not to worry about those people. >> rush limbaugh is still struggling to find an honest way t
of the united states of america. and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [ cheers and applause ] >> that's just an incredible moment. you hear it in here, tears in people's eyes, people clapping at 5:30 in the morning. >> and much deserved. >> john, thanks so much. we'll talk to you in just a minute on "morning joe." still ahead on "way too early" when we come back to charlotte. in sports, the nationals are great, the cubs are just horrible. last night they brawled. we'll show you, ahead in sports. >>> plus -- >> when america needed it most, who got us rolling again on the road to recovery? >> whoo! former michigan governor jennifer granholm gives a speech that is quite literally still ringing in the ears of those in the convention hall. that can't-miss clip and a check of weather when we come back from charlotte. ♪ >>> the shooting took place while shackure was on his way to a party following the mike tyson fight. the 25-year-old rapper was in the back seat of a black bmw, part of an informal convoy of ten cars, when la
? ♪ >>> welcome back to "way too early." it's 5:43 in the morning. a live picture of the united states capitol building. let's get a check on your weather from nbc meteorologist todd santos. todd, good morning. >> good morning to you, willie. a quiet setup across a good stretch of the country for today. your monday travel should be fairly easy, especially after what we dealt with early saturday with those two tornado touchdowns near the new york city area. the issue itself is that frontal boundary leaving us with mostly clear skies. the piece that's going to be most noticeable as you step outside, the could toler temperatures. 61 degrees at this point. 58 in hartford. will see a few patches of light frost tomorrow morning up around old forge, central portions of new york state. some of the first areas generally to see cooler temperatures in the northeast. that's kind of that first sign that maybe we start to begin that transition of seasons. for the most part today fairly quiet. may see a few pockets of light showers. some of those towards the capitol district. albany getting in on some of tha
united states must be outrage. >> the administration sent mixed signals to those who attacked our embassy in egypt and mixed signals to the world. >> reporter: the world waits to see who will be held responsible for the death of a diplomat. >> reporter: even some republicans criticized romney for jumping in while events were still unfolding. mara. >> right now there are reports of protestsers storming the u.s. embassy in the yemeni capital. once inside the compound, the mob brought down the u.s. flag and burned it. witnesses say security forces have opened fire on the crowd. >>> well, when it comes to what many see as mitt romney's missteps in the aftermath of the attack, last night on "politics nation," they spoke about what romney needs to do in response. >> before you make statements, get your facts straight. at night with the crush of other events going and i'm sure people running in and out telling this is happening, that's happening, let's get a statement out, they did it wrong. they didn't get their facts straight. he should take it back and he should express condolence to the dipl
, a remarkable suspension of joint operations between the united states and our supposed partners in afghanist afghanistan. what does the breakdown in that relationship mean for the future in the
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